smit
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Post by smit on Aug 15, 2007 7:58:07 GMT 10
unoriginal and untalented?!?!?! you've obviously never seen her fetish porn movies. TSK TSK! Ive been trying to find them! lol im a huge fan of hers but they werent really porn, i found one where she just has her feet rubbed and kissed its really weird lol. Oh and thank god someone let him know yet again that Cage & Styles etc dont make up there moveset, they use moves that they have seen before similar to AWF Wrestlers.
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Post by JT Robinson on Aug 15, 2007 8:21:36 GMT 10
Ive been trying to find them! lol im a huge fan of hers but they werent really porn, i found one where she just has her feet rubbed and kissed its really weird lol. Oh and thank god someone let him know yet again that Cage & Styles etc dont make up there moveset, they use moves that they have seen before similar to AWF Wrestlers. eww never mind then lol
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chanty
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Post by chanty on Aug 15, 2007 8:35:41 GMT 10
what? you dont dig feet being rubbed and kiss? because i know that i for sure find that a major turn on[/sarcasm]
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Post by Fridge on Aug 15, 2007 19:03:30 GMT 10
A fan? Maybe not, but like I said Australian Wrestling hasn't exactly grown much in the past 5 years. If anything it's shrunk, so I think a few hundred to a thousand fans, they should take advice from. They're obviously doing something wrong. Most of the guys I saw were still AWF/WSW regulars. Also I still don't see what the big fuss is about TNT. Sure he's one of the few guys to actually see the inside of a gym, but why should I watch him? Why should I care about him? yeah I really can't give you a reason to care about TNT so go ahead and boo the man if you don't care. Also the AWF talent are in good shape and train regularly. Don't tell me that guys like Club, Ravenous, Jay Law, Chris X, Dynamite, Bonza, Daniels, Theo or Flyswat don't work out... and then there's JT and Big Poppa Robinson's got even bigger guns than Billys! All the guys are in good athletic condition. Still the NSW shows get pretty good crowds I really can't commet on what you're seeing down there. In regards to the demographic of the product, it changes in regards to what the crowd is like. I've seen kids screaming their heads off at family friendly AWF shows and I've seen things like this past weekend with JT teasing a chop and then yelling at the crowd to f**k off
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Post by NIGHTMARE on Aug 15, 2007 21:28:52 GMT 10
Well supposidly TNT is the best in the country, why cant you give reasons? I believe he is one of the best.
I will give a few reasons, TNT has brought over a lot of international talent and often verses them so you can see them wrestle, he often does 4 star matches, if you like spot fests you will enjoy his matches, and if you dont like him you can laugh at his promos and him going "saaaaaa". Its not like he is one of those wrestlers that is hard to watch.
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Post by Over The Under on Aug 15, 2007 23:22:19 GMT 10
Well supposidly TNT is the best in the country, why cant you give reasons? I believe he is one of the best. I will give a few reasons, TNT has brought over a lot of international talent and often verses them so you can see them wrestle, he often does 4 star matches, if you like spot fests you will enjoy his matches, and if you dont like him you can laugh at his promos and him going "saaaaaa". Its not like he is one of those wrestlers that is hard to watch. Yes TNT brings over a lot of international talent, but about 90-95% of those talent are brought in to job to TNT to make him look better. I don't like spot fests. If you're implying that TNT's matches are spot fests then that just makes him even worse. He's not exactly a good mat wrestler, his overall look is awful and he has no gimmick, unless referring to himself as a stick of dynamite is his gimmick. I didn't say the gimmicks in AWF were stolen, I said most of the signature moves are. The pele kick isn't a simple spin kick, it's a back flip into a kick that AJ Styles has made famous. Also, Chris Masters IS a Warlord ripoff since his full nelson and the mannerisms and such that he does are an exact copy of the Warlord. He hasn't put a personal touch on it at all, that's what I'm talking about. Powerhouse Theo's spear looks EXACTLY like Rhino's gore, therefore it's obviously stolen from Rhino. Kid Dynamite? How can you tell me that isn't plaguerism? Even Krackerjak poked fun at that at the Melbourne show, which is why he's probably the only guy I somewhat like to watch. Billy Flyswat? Lamest name, lamest gimmick, and he's not exactly a big guy either. Although if he wore something that was a littler easier on the eyes and didn't come out with those retarded Thing gloves and prance around like a character from the Wiggles, he might be passable as a PROFESSIONAL wrestler. And if guys like JT Whatever his name is are so damn fit, how come he's got Tekno Team 2000's old costume to cover up his gut? Just about every video of AWF on YouTube I've see has a bunch of screaming kids on it. Like I said, Australian Wrestling needs to grow some balls, for once. Edit: Oh and in reference to this line: "If someone was using someones complete moveset I could see your point but If guys didnt use the same moves as other people most of the guys you mentioned above wouldnt have a career."Hmmm that's odd, from the looks of it none of these "professional" wrestlers actually HAVE a career. I'm sure most of them have jobs outside of wrestling because they're making jack all money from it. I wonder why?
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Post by NFS_PWOz on Aug 16, 2007 0:27:19 GMT 10
If Vandal's original post is in some way directed at myself, then so be it. Am I a "smark"? Perhaps, I might write about things I like and dislike after the show online, but when i'm at the show, i'm there to have a good time and enjoy the show I payed my hard earned to see, no more, no less. Do I criticise? You better believe it and for the most part my criticisms, whether you, anyone on this board or any other Tom, Dick or Harry agrees with it, my opinions usually have a bit of basis to them. I will gladly bitch about things that I think are terrible, but then by the same token I will also happily put over things that I thought were good, to me that's what being impartial truly is. And that goes for any promotion, be it AWF, IWA, PWA, UWA, whatever. It's just a bit strange, most of the wrestlers and those associated with the various promotions used to appreciate any form of feedback, be it good or bad, as long as it was honest. Now it seems like if what's being said isn't to someones liking then it's automatically wrong, well if that's the attitude, then that's probably the reason a lot of reviewers, columnists and fans on boards in general WON'T voice their opinions anymore and all you end up is repetitive talking head feedback from a bunch of yes-men. So that's my opinion, from a guy who's been watching wrestling since he was 10 (i'm 25 now), who has trained, (work permitting that will become is training again) and who has what I believe to be a completely genuine passion and knowledge of wrestling. If anyone disagrees with me or wants to bitch to my face, i'm not hard to find, a fair few of the guys know who I am, hell i'm friends with some AWF alumnus, so it's not like i'm Salman Rushdie or anything, besides I stick out like a sore thumb. Eagerly awaiting the torrent of crap i'll probably get....
Regards,
Nick "Nick From The Sell/NFS_PWOz/NewF'nShow" Galea.
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Post by NFS_PWOz on Aug 16, 2007 0:37:58 GMT 10
On a nicer note, there are a few guys in AWF who do get unfairly shit on. I dig Billy Flyswat's whole schtick, while I don't like that it seems every match he's involved in seems to automatically become a comedy match, I like his character and think he's a solid wrestler, at the very least he deserves respect for trying something different. I'm still not 100% sold on Chris X, but he's improved immensely in the last year or so, he's a hell of a lot better. For that matter, while i've gone cold on both Ravenous and Dynomite, both those guys are still quite talented too. TNT is a wrestler that I will always have a love/hate thing with as a performer. I have no issue with Greg personally, he's always seemed like a cool guy when i've spoken to him, but I just find him to be overrated as a wrestler, maybe it's because i've seen him have god knows how many matches over the last 5 + years, but it just doesn't do anything for me anymore. Maybe it's a case of familiarity breeding contempt, I dunno. And JT isn't fat, well i'll say that so you don't end up getting your arse out again, good god I think the people at the Dragonfly that night are still dealing with that sight ;D
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Post by JT Robinson on Aug 16, 2007 1:37:37 GMT 10
And if guys like JT Whatever his name is are so damn fit, how come he's got Tekno Team 2000's old costume to cover up his gut? Well unless they stole their outfit design from Nike Air/Jordan I cant answer that question. As for my fitness personally Im not really into wearing the whole budgey smugglers when Im wrestling. I know you love seeing big guys in tight lycra shorts with no shirts but unfortunetly I wont be helping you there. Now Ive wasted enough time on you Im off to steal some more signature moves, I seen someone do an armbar once, maybe I'll take that one, a headlock and whip some people into the ropes and see who Im ripping off. Lou Thesz better watch out.
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Post by JT Robinson on Aug 16, 2007 1:39:32 GMT 10
And JT isn't fat, well i'll say that so you don't end up getting your arse out again, good god I think the people at the Dragonfly that night are still dealing with that sight ;D aww come on, I was going to the gym for a while. I'll get back into it after my opperation. Then not only will my arms be bigger than Billys my chest will be greater than q's.
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Post by tyrant on Aug 16, 2007 8:28:17 GMT 10
Nick I wasn't directing at you. More the other people who NEVER have anything good to say.
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Post by pctune on Aug 16, 2007 12:11:34 GMT 10
or a guy coming out in jean shorts with a baseball hat, a chain around his neck and rapping (Ive seen it done) I remember that night... Good times, good times.
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Post by saaaaaa on Aug 16, 2007 15:05:31 GMT 10
Well supposidly TNT is the best in the country, why cant you give reasons? I believe he is one of the best. I will give a few reasons, TNT has brought over a lot of international talent and often verses them so you can see them wrestle, he often does 4 star matches, if you like spot fests you will enjoy his matches, and if you dont like him you can laugh at his promos and him going "saaaaaa". Its not like he is one of those wrestlers that is hard to watch. Yes TNT brings over a lot of international talent, but about 90-95% of those talent are brought in to job to TNT to make him look better. I don't like spot fests. If you're implying that TNT's matches are spot fests then that just makes him even worse. He's not exactly a good mat wrestler, his overall look is awful and he has no gimmick, unless referring to himself as a stick of dynamite is his gimmick. I didn't say the gimmicks in AWF were stolen, I said most of the signature moves are. The pele kick isn't a simple spin kick, it's a back flip into a kick that AJ Styles has made famous. Also, Chris Masters IS a Warlord ripoff since his full nelson and the mannerisms and such that he does are an exact copy of the Warlord. He hasn't put a personal touch on it at all, that's what I'm talking about. Powerhouse Theo's spear looks EXACTLY like Rhino's gore, therefore it's obviously stolen from Rhino. Kid Dynamite? How can you tell me that isn't plaguerism? Even Krackerjak poked fun at that at the Melbourne show, which is why he's probably the only guy I somewhat like to watch. Billy Flyswat? Lamest name, lamest gimmick, and he's not exactly a big guy either. Although if he wore something that was a littler easier on the eyes and didn't come out with those retarded Thing gloves and prance around like a character from the Wiggles, he might be passable as a PROFESSIONAL wrestler. And if guys like JT Whatever his name is are so damn fit, how come he's got Tekno Team 2000's old costume to cover up his gut? Just about every video of AWF on YouTube I've see has a bunch of screaming kids on it. Like I said, Australian Wrestling needs to grow some balls, for once. Edit: Oh and in reference to this line: "If someone was using someones complete moveset I could see your point but If guys didnt use the same moves as other people most of the guys you mentioned above wouldnt have a career."Hmmm that's odd, from the looks of it none of these "professional" wrestlers actually HAVE a career. I'm sure most of them have jobs outside of wrestling because they're making jack all money from it. I wonder why? Billy Flyswat is a gimmick aimed towards Children. The kids enjoy the gloves.
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Post by Fridge on Aug 16, 2007 16:13:08 GMT 10
I could have given reasons as to liking TNT based on his ability but if the character (and yes, it IS a character) doesn't appeal to someone then I can't make them like it. I wouldn't call him a spotfest either the man is very light on his feet for his size and I've seen him match the styles of many international talents INCLUDING mat wrestling.
So what if Theo uses a spear? it gets a reaction because it's farmiliar t the crowd and it's not a horrible thing that they're already farmiliar with it because of Rhyno (who didn't invent the spear).
Then you complain about Billy Flyswat after not calling our guys original? this guy goes out of his way to make himself different from everyone. Recently Eugene stole his outfit and Billy straight away changed his. His gimmick is enjoyed by adults too he got a fantastic response at Global Attack on Sunday dare I say best on the card bar Tanaka. Plus Billy has some decent size on himself and is more than passable as a good athlete.
If you want to watch nothing but BIG guys then tune into FOX8 every Friday afternoon.
When the new ECW started up last year and fans started complaining about it non-stop Paul Heyman said if you dislike it so much then do something about it if you really care instead of complaining and doing nothing about it. The stupid thing with a lot of people is that they get too old before they realise they have the power to make changes which is probably why polititians are so old.
An internet forum isn't much of a platform for voicing your oppinion, if you hate something so much then tell it to the people that count because they'll either tell you where you are wrong or use your critisisms constructivley. Then again if you just like complaining for the sake of complining then by all means be our guest...
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chanty
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Post by chanty on Aug 16, 2007 18:01:53 GMT 10
Billy Flyswat is a gimmick aimed towards Children. The kids enjoy the gloves. Just kids? I enjoy the gimmick! *poses with massive hulk gloves as i dont own "thing" gloves*
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